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Celeste

2018

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The Talos Principle 2

2023

Celeste vs The Talos Principle 2: Which Is More Woke?

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The Talos Principle 2 appears more woke than Celeste based on AI analysis, with a difference of about 29 points. Community votes agree with the AI verdict.

GameCeleste2018
12Score
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Community (votes): ~43/100

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AI verdict

The Talos Principle 2 is more woke than Celeste (AI).

The Talos Principle 2 leads by 29 points on the AI scale.

Community verdict

The Talos Principle 2 reads more woke in community votes than Celeste.

Vote-weighted spread: about 47 points (43 vs 90).

Why the scores diverge

  • The 29-point gap reflects how much ideology steers each story on our six-dimension pass, not just vibes.
  • The Talos Principle 2 highlight: The dialogue often serves to push philosophical and ideological themes rather than advancing the plot organically.
  • Celeste highlight: The dialogue serves the narrative without overt moral lecturing.
  • Celeste: Characters are primarily developed through their interactions and struggles rather than as symbols.
  • The Talos Principle 2: While characters have depth, some feel more like vehicles for exploring concepts than fully realized individuals.

The Talos Principle 2 reads higher on anti-traditional framing than Celeste, which nudges the overall profile message-forward. The Talos Principle 2 reads higher on message-first dialogue than Celeste, which nudges the overall profile message-forward. The Talos Principle 2 reads higher on ideology over story than Celeste, which nudges the overall profile message-forward.

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Frequently asked questions

Which is more woke, Celeste or The Talos Principle 2?
The Talos Principle 2 scores higher on the AI pass (41/100 vs 12/100).
What do community votes say?
Votes lean more woke on The Talos Principle 2 (90 vs 43 on our vote-weighted scale).
Why might AI and votes disagree?
AI scores come from a structured model pass; votes capture how people read the politics or messaging. Trailers, culture-war framing, and release timing can push votes away from the model.